Dissecting Wartburgwatch which presents itself as a blog dissecting Christian trends but dissects, mostly, conservative male Evangelicals who have a conservative view of Scripture. TWW has a progressive view of Scripture; i.e. a moderate feminist perspective. Lately, it is more and more about abusers [ men ] and victims, generally women. It is written by two women and the commenters are increasingly female.
They have a post about R.C. Sproul Jr., who has a severe alcohol problems by all accounts. Frankly, he's just one of many pastors/priests who have serious issues with alcohol abuse. So he's not on the radar because of his alcohol problems. No, he's on TWW's radar because his Daddy holds to and teaches, very influentially, the inerrancy of Scripture.
T.W.W. wishes to silence ALL conservative Evangelicals who teach the inerrancy of Scripture. You simply can't be a feminist and an inerrantist. It's that simple.
R.C. Sproul Sr., and his Evangelical friends, are destructive to the feminist narrative.
Therefore, attacking him through his family is an option because NOBODY dare question the feminist narrative.
Ah, the on-going compassion of T.W.W. [sarc]
Addendum - commenter Deborah Coan - who exhibits compassion
"Why do you feel it’s necessary to malign a godly servant like RC Sproul [ SR ] as if he is in some way responsible for his grown sons actions! He has been through enough pain without your unfounded accusations and threats even that if his son hurts someone it will be on his head . This is inexcusable and seriously hurts your credibility.
I’ve been a Ligonier for years . I watch RC continue to persevere through terrible physical pains preaching Gods word wearing an oxygen mask . Leave him alone! We all grieve over our grown children when they inflict pain on themselves and others knowing that most of the time our help is rejected."
DEBORAH, T.W.W. exists to attack men like R.C. Sr. - That's who they are.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4622098/Texas-prosecutor-finds-ex-day-care-owners-innocent-abuse.html The couple had been convicted in 1992 after therapists testified that they helped the three alleged victim recover memories of satanic rituals and sexual abuse suffered at the hands of the Kellers.
____________________ Over the past several years; many T.W.W. commenters have indicated their faith in secular therapists. Frankly, I'm not sure why.
A few representative comments: __________ Wow. These guys are such scam artists. Poor James didn’t get his bottom kissed.
If only people would one-day figure out the only reason these self-worshipping brats became Christians is to get their bottom’s thoroughly kissed and quick easy free money.
Basically, these men are demanding that we pay them to become their trapped, submissive, bottom-kissing, money-giving, slave-robots. 4. Must fawn all over the leaders of The Gospel Coalition. Wouldn’t The Antichrist breeze through their real criteria? (Especially the “Slick Deceiver” archetype of Antichrist…) The SBC Calvinist are courting these independent Calvinist groups because then they can have more Calvinist messengers every year at the SBC who vote for officers who appoint trustees and on and on. It's part of the "reformation" of the SBC. The NAMB plant Calvinist churches for the same reason. Every church gets I think a minimum of two messengers. And now you can see the Calvinists banding together to give "scholarships" to those who need help getting to the SBC. These men just turn my stomach! How are people so deceived by these charlatans? All I see in them is: $$$$$$ Grow by networking is the theme of the day in SBC. In an effort to reverse the downward trend in SBC numbers, they have partnered with various New Calvinist ministries – including Mahaney, Driscoll, and MacDonald. The SBC continues to dig a deeper hole – one they may never get out of. Seems like the only requirement for a church to be part of the SBC is the subjugation of women. __________ FYI - a bit of irony. I was officially banned from T.W.W. for my lack of compassion. The "lack of compassion" only applies to those who don't buy the whole feminist narrative at TWW. Otherwise, you can be as angry and attacking as you choose - as long as you're attacking the conservative Evangelicals. Then, "Katy bar the door." That's how T.W.W. rolls. _________ Do I think there are problem with MacDonald and Harvest? YES Do I think there are problems with T.W.W. ABSOLUTELY - What we have is the pot [ TWW ] calling the kettle [ MacDonald ] black.
""Among the smallest accredited Protestant seminaries in the nation are three Episcopal seminaries: Bexley Hall Seabury-Western Theological Seminary Federation with 17 full-time students enrolled, General Theological Seminary with 34 full-time students, and Episcopal Divinity School with 35 full-time students. IRD’s Jeffrey WaltonreportedEpiscopal Divinity School will no longer grant degrees after the coming academic school year. “A menu of recycled 1960s-era liberation theology themes garnished with radical sexuality and gender studies proved unappealing to prospective seminarians,”notedWalton.
Meanwhile, it’s two Cooperative Baptist Fellowship-associated seminaries that reveal another interesting contrast among evangelical institutions. Unlike the chart-topping conservative SBC-affiliated seminaries, the more liberal CBF-affiliated Baptist Theological Seminary of Richmond counted 42 full-time students and Baptist Seminary of Kentucky had only 31 full-time students in 2015-16.""
[ About the vote on the Alt-right. Unlike Wartburg fables, here's from a guy who was there. ] "Because I was there, I’ve been disappointed at some of the musings, pontifications, and even insinuations of those who weren’t there, including both secular media and armchair quarterbacks who were offering misinformed assessments. At no point and in no way was the resolutions committee being “soft” on the Alt-Right or other forms of white supremacy. At no point were Southern Baptists debating whether or not we ought to denounce these demonic impulses. At no point did Steve Gaines or anyone else force Southern Baptists to do something they didn’t want to do. At no point were Southern Baptists wringing their hands over how we would look in the media if we didn’t do something. At no point were we trying not to offend Trump voters—or any other voters, for that matter. None of that happened, and folks who suggest it did are either speaking out of ignorance or out of malicious intent, period." Per usual, the ladies of Wartburg more interested in their narrative than the truth. Come on ladies, you can do better [ as can your commenters.] "This is the bottom line: if you weren’t in the room where it happened, then you really don’t know. You are free to make whatever assumptions you wish, but please admit they are just that: assumptions, rather than informed commentary based on first-hand knowledge. And as you make those assumptions, give us the benefit of the doubt. It’s the Christ-like thing to do." Nathan Finn
In their post on the Young, Restless and reformed they end the post with this paragraph. "Dee and I have written extensively on most of these individuals and institutions that Collin Hansen praises. In a mere nine years, some dramatic changes have taken place in the Neo-Cal world. When will we ever learn to keep our focus on Christ alone?" Indeed ladies; as you accuse others of not keeping their focus on Christ alone your focus continues to be attacking conservative Evangelicals who hold to the inerrancy of Scripture. That is your focus on Christ alone? Pot, meet kettle.
VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis has laid down an ultimatum to defiant Nigerian priests: lose your job if you don't obey me and your bishop.
Francis met June 8 at the Vatican with a delegation from the Ahiara diocese, where priests have been refusing to accept the 2012 appointment by the then pontiff, Benedict XVI, of the local bishop.
Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, reporting the pope's unusually harsh order, said Sunday that Francis was acting "for the good of the people of God" by threatening to suspend the priests from the ministry if they didn't pledge in a letter, by July 9, "total obedience" to Francis and accept Bishop Peter Okpaleke's appointment.
According to many TWW commenters, ONLY Neo-cals would be so authoritarian.
I wonder if Deebs will give this a post - probably not. It doesn't follow the narrative does it.
I do have to wonder Dee if, for a variety of reasons, the blog doesn't contribute to you stress levels which impacts your body's ability to fight off illness which brings fatigue and flare-ups of other physical issues. It may not be good for your health. Seriously.
I am sometimes amazed when I realize that God has placed me in circumstances that eventually result in a blog post. Today is no exception. I want to make one thing perfectly clear to the Calvinistas who will read this post with gritted teeth. If you claim to believe in a sovereign God, then you will need to ask why I, who writes a blog, was given this unique perspective by those who were one the "receiving end" of Davis' judgments. Also, since some of you subscribe to the total depravity of man, you will need to deal with the fact that even a much-admired pastor can be capable of misrepresenting a situation.
Dear Dee, in the sovereignty of God both good Kings and bad Kings serve His purposes. Both good blogs and bad blogs serve His purposes. You, blog author, serve God's purposes regardless of your intent.
As R.C. Sproul has pointed out, even EVIL serves God's purposes.
"One thing we know for sure is that evil does exist. It exists, if nowhere else, in us and in our behavior. We know that the force of evil is extraordinary and brings great pain and suffering into the world. We also know that God is sovereign over it and in His sovereignty will not allow evil to have the last word. Evil always and ever serves the ultimate best interest of God Himself. It is God in His goodness and in His sovereignty t has ordained the final conquest over evil and its riddance from His universe. In this redemption we find our rest and our joy — and until that time, we live in a fallen world." MANY Non Calvinist also hold to the sovereignty of God.
Roger Olson writes,
“Classical Arminianism goes far beyond belief in general providence to include affirmation of God’s intimate and direct involvement in every event of nature and history. The only thing the Arminian view of God’s sovereignty necessarily excludes is God’s authorship of sin and evil. Faithful followers of Arminius have always believed that God governs the entire universe and all of history. Nothing at all can happen without God’s permission, and many things are specifically and directly controlled and caused by God. Even sin and evil do not escape God’s providential governance in classical Arminian theology. God permits and limits them without willing or causing them.”3
BTW P.S., if you wish to see the Donner Pass of Christianity, do look closely at The Episcopal Church. It's not Evangelical churches that are dying out, it is the mainstream churches. The more liberal their theology, the faster their death spiral.
FYI, only if you're interested Written by a female Marine https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/2014/09/why-women-do-not-belong-us-infantry Attack on traditional marriage viewshttp://www.dennyburk.com/farmer-banned-from-selling-produce-at-market-because-of-his-views-on-marriage/ http://sbcvoices.com/5-reasons-to-be-thankful-for-paige-patterson-president-of-swbts/
[M]an ...is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake. (1Corinthians 11:7-9) _________________ [ A nightmare of a verse in these feminist times, and yet there it is.
And by the way, for those of you upset with this verse; do remember your problem isn't actually with the messenger [ moi ] it's with the message. ]
In response to your claim this: "Wartburgwatch HATES shepherds - they will have no man in authority over them",
I am a 'Wartburger' of sorts who is Catholic to the backbone, and I can tell you that the Good Shepherd is Lord to Wartburgers all, and that, if you care to learn of the ancient Church, Our Lord is God, in the second Person of the Holy Trinity, True God; and also True Man.
I think your claim is not accurate. Please reconsider, because 'shepherds' who serve in Wartburger's Churches are SERVANTS and if they are 'leaders' it is in the way of their serving in accordance with the model given to them by Our Lord Himself.
A person's moral conscience cannot be over-ruled, nor would it be, by any true Servant of the Word. And so there is respect for the dignity of the human person among Wartburgers, in that they are people of moral conscience, yes. "
Here ya go Christiane - TWW respect for the dignity of human persons
I have wondered why Marky doesn’t go out and get a real job, like a real man, in the real world. What is real man Mark scared? Will the real world laugh at pompous blowhard Mark and tell him to lick their boots?
I don’t think any of the NeoCal boyz could work jobs in the real world. Nobody would tolerate them.
Not only that, the NeoCal Boyz couldn’t handle working with women who wouldn’t submit to them. Imagine one of these Boyz having a female boss. They would have conniptions and quit after the first day.
So Christiane? Will there be any rebuking of the above comment by Dee, Deb or other commenterrs? I'm thinking not. The bile and misandry [ dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men ] runs deep at TWW.