Saturday, April 15, 2017

WARTBURG WOMEN LESS SINFUL THAN CALVINIST MEN

On Good Friday, the Wartburg women post about how much God loves His children and that the emphasis of Easter is not the forgiveness of sinful men [ and they do mean men - not women - dryly ] but how much we are loved by God.

Now there is nothing new in this and many, many others [ including the dreaded Calvinists ] have made this argument.

But, this is Wartburgwatch after all and their number one priority is NOT to assure its readership that God loves them;   no, no, no, - their number one priority is to blast the conservative theologians who would dare suggest, as Kevin De Young does,  that Easter is about the forgiveness of sinful men that we might be in a right relationship to a righteous and holy God.

How Dare he - dryly.

Interestingly enough;
Men and women actually look at their sinfulness differently.  Men have and do, on occasion, commit suicide due to their horror of their own sinfulness?  Women?  That almost never appears to be the case.

I think men are more likely to be horrified by the evil that resides within them then women.  If you ask a man how he is sinful; he can generally spell it out in great detail.  Women seem less inclined to view their sins with despair.  Are women less sinful then men?  Absolutely not.  But men and women clearly have a different view of personal righteousness/sinfulness - IMHO.

And then there's this;

Luke 18:9-14New International Version (NIV)

The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

I think the majority of TWW commenters might be less than impressed by the sinner who pounded his chest and begged for God mercy versus the Pharisee who made a comparison and found the sinner wanting.  After all, the sinner was basically spouting "worm theology." The T.W.W. blog queens would not approve.

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FYI - a paraphrase from a book I read many, many years ago - profound opening statement went something like this.

Mankind is both the glory and the scum of the earth -  how much is the glory and how much the scum?
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[ more to come - I'm at work on this very early yet splendid Saturday morning.  ]

[ For those of you who would like to accuse me of stealing from the company by writing this post and on company time; I'm actually a contractor.  They only pay me if I produce something so it's no skin off their nose if I chose to write a post versus produce a report - for which I am paid.   So there]

Thursday, April 13, 2017

WARTBURGWATCH hates complimentarians - disturbing stats suggest they're not winning the battle.

"White people love egalitarian gender roles. Minorities, not so much."

https://www.thecollegefix.com/bulletin-board/traditional-gender-roles-increasingly-popular-millennials-research-finds/

The ladies of TWW need to come to grips with the fact that the creator God put within women a desire to both lean upon and try to supplant the authority and power of their husbands.  It's simply foolish to think that young women will not look to their husbands to support and care for them.

One of the most telling stories I read from a couple of decades ago were these words from an avowed feminist.  [ Paraphase ]  What feminism has accomplished is to allow men to be come even more irresponsible.

 [ You tell a man he's not responsible, you are, then VOILA.  He's gonna let you handle it; along with all the other things you handle.  If you can do it; why should he?  If you declare yourself to be egalitarian - hey, he's willing to let you handle all the load.]

T.W.W.'s motto:  Ruining Christian marriages for women through-out the white world.

FYI - Mrs. B.B. Warfield

http://www.credomag.com/2013/04/24/annie-pearce-kinkead-mrs-b-b-warfield/

Tuesday, April 11, 2017

WARTBURG WATCH hates Calvinists [ actually straw men, not the real Calvinists ]

SO TWW does a post where Roger Olson notes that 30 years ago a young Calvinist  at Bethel suggested he wasn't really of the faith if he wasn't a Calvinist. [ John Piper has personally repudiated that .]

GIVE ME A BREAK.  A young theologian says something stupid?  For goodness sake Dee-Deb.  We've all said stupid things at one time or another.  I READ stupid posts and comment on your blog weekly.  Sheesh ladies; get a grip.

COMMENTER  [ emily honey ] - in classic Wartburgian psycho-speak starts the psycho-babble.
"The young angry Calvinists, they misrepresent others because they do not truly understand or properly attach to their own beliefs. They may hold to their beliefs as a way to not actually deal with certain parts of the self and true suspicions about God they feel uncomfortable with.
They lack empathy, because they have not truly engaged with their heart and mind all the opposing arguments and perspectives. They have not thought carefully through their own stuff with humility.
Their theology is ultimately a projection of something or defense mechanism against reality and God while pretending they are engaging reality and God and self. So that it ends up being extremely self-deceptive and can be really hard to overcome or fix or point out to someone or see in yourself if you think and convince others that you are doing the opposite. Theology is often the best way to hide from God, I think!"
HORSE HOCKEY people.  What a crock.

But that's WartburgWatch for you.

Monday, April 3, 2017

WARTBURGWATCH ATTACKS MIKE PENCE for being careful around women

Jack wrote:
Reading the comments make me so glad I’ve left religion.
Men & women are equal. In every single way.
Was traveling for business this week. Had dinner with not one, but two, count’em two! Women who were married to other men. And I’m married too. And we were all sitting at the same table. If God does exist, he must have had a lightening bolt ready for all of us.
And get this! One of the pilots on the flight home was a woman. Locked in a cockpit with her male co pilot. What shenanigans must have occurred once the autopilot was turned on.
I think the Billy Graham rule was concocted so Billy Graham can let everyone know how pious he is. I think Pence is the same way. I doubt either of them applied the rule 100% of the time.
Just pious posturing. If I recall, Jesus wasn’t by that baloney either.
Darlene replied:
So, you know the spiritual condition of Billy Graham’s heart and Pence’s heart?
I love TWW, I really do. But this thread is beginning to sound frantic and judgmental.
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Aw Darlene; you have recognized the problem.  "frantic and judgmental" is so often the status of T.W.W. and its commenters.

Tuesday, March 21, 2017

SGMSURVIVORS

Did not survive.

ADDENDUM - Wartburg Watch joined the hunt for SGMsurvivors extensively reviewing its history  and the many sins of C.J. Mahaney[ from TWW's perspective].

24 hours later there are only 21 comments;  i.e. nobody really cares anymore.

I believe, ladies, that ship has sailed despite your best efforts.

Tuesday, February 28, 2017

WARTBURGWATCH hates the conservative Evangelical Church

A constant theme throughout Wartburgwatch posts are the problems with the conservative Evangelical Church and the theologically conservative men who serve them.

Deb, Dee and the commenters always have a better way of doing church.  They are very unhappy with the state of the Evangelical Church and a large percentage of them appear to be "Nones" or "Dones,"  people who no longer attend church and blame their attendance, not on themselves, but on other people who said or did things of which they did not approve.

So each post suggest problems and many posts highlight the kind of church you should never attend;
primarily conservative Evangelical Churches led by theologically conservative men.  RED FLAG, RED FLAG, RED FLAG!

BUT here's the great thing about these United States.

ANYBODY CAN START THEIR OWN CHURCH.  Let me repeat that in all caps.

ANYBODY CAN START THEIR OWN CHURCH.

So Dee, you are quite free to start your own church.  Deb, you too can start your own church or maybe make it official that you already have your own church - Wartburgwatch.

Nancy2, have at it girl.  You don't have to put up with all those things that go on at the church,  Start your own Sis.  NOBODY is stopping you.  Ask Velour if she'd like to be your co-pastor.

Dale, thanks for the wonderful articles on all that is wrong with the 9Marks doctrinal, theological, ecclesiastical stance on what makes a strong church.  I think H.U.G. could be available if you ask.  Definitely get Todd on board, he of "Thou art the man" fame  [ and you thought there was only one Nathan the prophet ].   If Todd doesn't join you Brent - ex-SGM leader is still looking for a ministry I believe.  Give him a shout out too.  Between the 4 of you, you'd have a seriously butt-kicking church.

Have at it Bro.   You can have your very own church, nobody will stop you.  There are a number of commenters you could ask to support you or become a part of the pastoral staff.

Are you concerned about the money in the ministry?  DO IT FOR FREE brother's and sisters.  That way nobody can accuse you of doing it for the money.

You think Evangelical leadership is corrupt?  Hey, you can now be the non-corrupt leadership that never steps on toes, never offends people and gives a microphone to any Jane, Mary or Hilda who wishes to address the perfidy of the male of the species.

Don't have bylaws, don't have membership guidelines.  Heaven forbid that you would actually make allowance for church discipline.

Have women preach/prophecy 4 Sundays out of 5.  There is nothing stopping you.  This is a free country.  I think Gram3 would be pleased to lend her voice to say nothing of Lydia.

Actually, if you're gonna have a bylaw, outlaw people who believe in a Young Earth Scenario.  Tell them they're welcome but they must never mention their personal beliefs.

1/2 of your church could be dedicated to the Singles ministry.  I'm thinking it would be 90 percent women but what the heck.  Each single/divorcee, on joining your church, should be given their own microphone to use as they see fit.

Daisy could start her own "singles only" church if she so chose.

[ You know how many churches take 5 or 10 minutes to gather the little children and talk about Jesus.  What you can do instead is to invite 1 attender a week to come forward and tell of their victimization by the Patriarchy.  Give them 5 minutes to talk about emotional, sexual, spiritual, physical, mental, psychological abuse they have undergone.  They want a platform; give it to them but make sure they don't cut into your preaching too much - unless you want to go short and sweet. ]

You can pick and choose your own theology and doctrines.  Make the church a pure democracy where 50 percent of the people present can set the rules on any given Sunday.  Forget formal leadership or roles in the church.  That only leads to conflicts.  Don't have any elders; except yourself.

I would highly discourage you from participating in or speaking at any conferences.  There is apparently huge money there and you want to avoid filthy lucre at all costs.

There will be no reason to call for a tithe,  I think somehow the buildings, bulletins, websites, chairs and sound systems will pay for themselves.

You might consider insisting that any attender who has ever engaged in a sexual sin wear an identifying letter on their chest/breast during the services.  On the other hand you might want to let the "sexually broken" roam free unless they are narcissistically male  and sexually broken at the same time.
You know how those narcissists are don't you.  Don't you?

Most Evangelical churches focus on Scripture as the basis for their teaching, preaching and Sunday Schools.  But there is no rule that says you have to.
COSMOPOLITAN or the HUFFINGTON POST are also viable sources of teaching/preachings.
There is no law that says a church must reference Scripture.  No Law whatsoever.

Eagle's church will be free to invite atheists to give the message.  There's no law stopping you Eagle.

So, Dee, Deb, commenters, Nones and Dones.

I highly encourage you to start your own church today.

As the famous T.V. ad put it,   "Have it your way."