Thursday, November 23, 2017

The DEEBS attack Tim Keller

Dr. Tim Keller had the temerity to suggest that pastors of large churches  are going to function, in one of their roles, as an administrator.  Dee recounts attending a couple of the  many, many churches she has attended and left, where she believed the pastor didn't actually know all his congregants, her included.  [ Ah the humanity - dryly ]

Is there a precedent?

Number of disciples of Jesus:  TWELVE
Number of followers:  Thousands.

Jesus had a history, in his ministry, of removing himself, and the disciples from the crowds after a time being.  Did he shepherd these thousands individually?  Only in a few specific cases.

But what about the disciples themselves after Jesus had been resurrected.

The First Seven Deacons Appointed

Now in these days, as the disciples were increasing in number, a complaint arose by the Greek-speaking Jews against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food.
 So the twelve summoned the community of disciples and said, “It is not desirable that we neglect the word of God to serve tables. So, brothers, select from among you seven men of good reputation, full of the Spirit and wisdom, whom we will put in charge of this need. But we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word.” And the statement pleased the whole group, and they chose Stephen (a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit), and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolaus (a convert from Antioch), whom they stood before the apostles. And they prayed and placed their hands on them.
And the word of God kept spreading, and the number of disciples in Jerusalem was increasing greatly, and a large number of priests began obeying the faith.

HERE the disciples did not see their responsibility as being the shepherds to individuals and their needs, not to serve the tables.  They administered, by appointing deacons, and then focused upon writing and teaching the Word.

Final note: there are excellent small churches and excellent mega-churches.  Choose one but don't complain about the other.

Tuesday, November 21, 2017

T.W.W. insists upon conformity to the secular culture.

FBC Jefferson City Calls a Female Pastor and is Ousted from the Tennessee Baptist Convention.

How should Jefferson City respond?

[Answer: join the vast but dying crew of Mainline Churches where many churches now have ONLY female staff.  There is YET no law requiring you to be SBC.  However, if Dee and Deb had their way, there WOULD be a law requiring you to have the role of senior pastor/shepherd open to women.  Dee and Deb have more than a few times indicated their belief that the church shouldn't hesitate to face the wrath of the courts for wrong think. ]


Note to the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church - T.W.W. believes you shouldn't limit your priests to being men.   HOWEVER, since you're not Evangelical, they're not going to say anything.

Sunday, November 19, 2017

3 Orthodox views on why women cannot be priests; TWW continues their attack on John Piper
Christ is the Incarnate Logos, the Second Person of the Trinity. Christ was incarnate as a man. Why? The Holy Trinity is inherently neither male nor female. The Trinity is spirit. However, God the Father has revealed Himself as male. Why? The Father creates all things visible and invisible. The male is the source of creation. The female must be impregnated by the male. As the male is the natural source of creation, the supernatural source is revealed as Father. Christ, the Son, is eternally begotten of the Father. He is the image of the Father. When He is begotten in time, He reveals himself as a male.

Thursday, November 16, 2017

TWW and Roy Moore

T.W.W. is concerned, as they should be.  But because of their dislike of conservative Evangelical males they refused to reference two of them - Denny Burk and Al Mohler.  I'll reference them for you.

As Christians, our first response to such allegations should not be a political calculus. Our first response should be horrified compassion for those traumatized by sexual misconduct. And that response should also include moral clarity and consistency. The balance of the United States Senate is not our chief concern. Our witness is. More than anything, we must be concerned to bear witness to the gospel of Jesus Christ and to its transforming power. That witness is undermined when God’s truth is set aside for any reason, much more for worldly political ends.
Yesterday before these most recent allegations came forth, Albert Mohler made the following remarks on The Briefing:
We also understand a particular responsibility to defend the defenseless and to speak up for those who need that defense, and we must make very clear that predatory sexual behavior, especially predatory sexual behavior addressed to a child, to a minor, is absolutely heinous, reprehensible, and cannot be accepted by any morally sane society. Even in our sexually confused age, we should be thankful for the fact that there is at least enough residual moral sense in the American people that they understand that any contact by an adult male with a minor female, or for that matter you could even change the genders, it’s absolutely wrong, immoral, and unacceptable. So we should at least state that about the charges right up front: If indeed the allegations are true, they are genuinely, morally devastating and they should be politically devastating as well.

I couldn’t agree more. Every person who names Jesus as Lord should agree as well.

A comment about politicians:

Jonathan Adler makes a persuasive case that Moore is a constitutional illiterate, but it’s not like that would set Moore apart much in the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body.
The truth is, the Senate is just awful — and the House is no better — because it’s full of politicians. The real travesty here isn’t that we might send another clown to join the clown show. It’s that the clown show has so much power, and so little accountability, when it’s doing things that are a lot more serious than groping.
And no, this isn’t good, it’s terrible. It’s more evidence of our decline. And I feel bad for having to point it out, again.

Tuesday, November 14, 2017

Kudos Dee and Deb

Most recent post reviews a book, The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse - which they like.

But what is truly amazing, they do not take the opportunity of the book review post to take a gratuitous swipe at a conservative Evangelical.  That's the first time in my memory.

KUDOS Dee and Deb!

Saturday, November 11, 2017

Wartburgwatch attacks Al Mohler

This who the Deebs are, this is what they do.    The best of feminine Christianity - dryly.

The Evangelical conservatives, such as Mohler, Piper, MacArthur, Dever are bombarded by criticisms on Wartburgwatch as being unfeeling, narcissistic, egotistical etc.

It makes me wonder, what percentage of Wartburgians would be pleased to see them undergo trauma and even death?

T.W.W. presents themselves as a blog of compassion.

"Lydia -
Joe Carter doesn’t have a clue. ERLC. Russ Moors. All frauds. All they want is camera time and money to promote themselves as “thought leaders”.

Flannery O'Connor quote:
" In the absence of faith, we govern by tenderness [compassion ] and tenderness leads to the gas chamber."

I think, in Wartburgians heart of hearts, many, such as Lydia,  would be pleased, due to "compassion:, * to see the conservative Evangelicals sent to the gas chamber.  They are convinced, in their own minds,  that these men are the ruination of the church and society.

*Social Justice Warriors