Survivors; do you want revenge or do you want to be whole.

You can't have them both.

Phil Johnson nails it.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21212024&postID=7280556643587836562
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Do survivor blogs and "discernment" blogs actually help anybody or do they encourage further bitterness and resentment?

I think it's the latter.

Insightful comment

I can’t bring myself to look at TWW either. In years past I saw the most mocking remarks towards Calvinists I have ever seen in my life at that site. I am a Calvinist. I love Spurgeon, Lloyd-Jones, Iain Murray, and so many others. If WW is criticizing Mohler for mocking fellow Christians I hope they can remove logs from their own eyes first. The cracks about young earth creationists there, or people who believe in biblical male leadership in churches, well, that site was like a sewer pipe of mockery. Been a while since I was there so maybe the tone has improved, I don’t know. But they hold the prize for mockery IMO.

TWW dislike Al Mohler more than ever,

http://news.sbts.edu/2019/02/15/statement-r-albert-mohler-jr-sovereign-grace-churches/

ALBERT MOHLER PODCAST

If you want Dr. Mohler's take on the challenges facing the SBC, he has a daily podcast - Monday's looks at the problems facing the SBC as he discusses the Houston Chronicle article.

https://albertmohler.com/

HOUSTON CHRONICLE COUNT

380 LEADERS have been accused of sexual sins. 220 convicted.

A church leader according to this list includes;

Pastors,
teachers(at private schools), 
church volunteers,
nurses, 
deacons/elders
and assorted staff.

RUSSELL MOORE

 Our denomination now has a Sexual Abuse Presidential Study Group assigned with investigating all options and reviewing what other denominations and groups have done to keep track of abuses, while hearing from law enforcement, psychological and psychiatric experts, survivors, and many others.

Our approach is seeking to encourage policies and practices that protect children and the vulnerable from sexual abuse in autonomous but cooperating churches, all the while promoting compliance with laws and providing compassionate care for those who have survived trauma. True, we have no bishops. But we have a priesthood of believers. 

WHO DOES WARTBURGWATCH HATE MORE? UPDATE

The Houston Chronicle is about to release a story about abuse and coverups within Southern Baptist Churches.  It looks to be very revealing.

[ 47,000 Southern Baptist Churches in USA]

But back to the headline of this post.  Wartburgwatch is all over this of course, but my question is:  Who do they hate more?  The actual abusers or Albert Mohler.

My money is on Albert Mohler as more hated by the denizens of T.W.W. then the actual abusers.

Why is Albert Mohler so hated?  It's because of his stance on Scripture.
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Insightful readers will keep this in mind; you can be a member of a Southern Baptist Church, you CANNOT be a member of the SBC denomination.  Each SBC church is autonomous.  There is no denominational membership for individuals.

ARTICLE:
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/Southern-Baptist-sexual-abuse-spreads-as-leaders-13588038.php

CRUCIAL -
August "Augie" Boto, interim president of the SBC's Executive Committee, helped draft the rejection of reform proposals in 2008. In an interview, he expressed "sorrow" about some of the newspapers' findings but said the convention's leadership can do only so much to stop sexual abuses.
"It would be sorrow if it were 200 or 600" cases, Boto said. "Sorrow. What we're talking about is criminal. The fact that criminal activity occurs in a church context is always the basis of grief.

But it's going to happen.

And that statement does not mean that we must be resigned to it."

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I would think; taking into account the number of Southern Baptist Churches and membership, MORE than 700 people have experienced sexual abuse of assorted leadership in the last 20 years.  It is the nature of sin - from which we all suffer.

T.W.W. -finding sinners everywhere they look - except for the people they like

TWW has confirmed the sinfulness of Evangelical pastors/leaders/preachers and theologians.

Of interest to me:  if you accused John Piper, Al Mohler, C.J. Mahaney, John MacArthur, Lig Duncan, Mark Dever, Jonathan Leaman, Matt Walsh, Alastair Begg of being terrible sinners;  THEY WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

ALL OF THEM believe that man is born with a "bent towards sin" and need the Grace of God if they are ever to be justified and made righteous.

They are much hated by many of the commenters at T.W.W.

Preach the Bible; not Calvinism

https://www.9marks.org/article/preach-the-bible-not-calvinism/?fbclid=IwAR3H_Z-RPr-AHc-YPEwVz_FCJ7HueV-a5ekrqccoM9mMPHBqmzGgxP3Ktk0

Who's lying? Wartburgwatch or John MacArthur

A journalist who apparently does not like John MacArthur tracked down Charles Evers to get him to tell John MacArthur to quit lying about being in Memphis and a part of the ministers present when Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

Charles Evers, a truly decent man by history, is now 96 years old.  If you actually didn't have an axe to grind against John MacArthur you just might think that Charles' memory is no longer what it once was.

Of course, almost without exception, everybody including Dee is lining up against John MacArthur.  She really, really doesn't like conservative Evangelical men  [ and some evangelical women ].

You are less than a serious thinker if you want to trust your narrative about an incident 50 years ago to a 96 year old man.

Hating C.J. Mahaney - part one thousand and 33. UPDATE

Today Jonathan Leaman was attacked by Wartburgwatch [ again ] because of his friendship with C.J. Mahaney.
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I need to come clean.  As far as I can tell my sins are not any less than C.J.'s
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So if asked, "Would I allow myself to be friends with C.J. Mahaney?"
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My answer would be, "Would C.J. Mahaney allow himself to be friends with me."

UPDATE:

If you pay any attention, you'll know the blood thirst of the social justice lynch mob would never be sated by whatever apology 
[ mea culpa ]  C.J. might make.

It just wouldn't happen.  They will hate C.J. with or without an apology.

The social justice lynch mob does not forgive.